Morning Barry, I consider myself a pro-Palestinian, pro-Israel, pro-Two State solution, anti Hamas, anti-right wing Israeli person. I find it so sad that when I discuss this "horrible-beyond-belief" situation very few ever see or think about the see the opposite side's position. Talk about being in a bubble. I get and respect how high an emotional issue this is for so many, but that is not an excuse to try and understand the other sides view. Regarding the college protest, I'm all for free speech and civil disobedience, but creating a threatening a hostile and dangerous environment only lessons your legitimacy and what valid points you could have. Tolerating this is very fucked up. All the college administrations continue to allow this to go on should lose their jobs. And the double standard that so obviously exists regarding how we treat Jews vs. other minority groups shouts anti-Semitism and needs to be recognized and addressed. Love ya Barry.... Thanks for Klugertown
Petey: i do not disagree with the rights of the pro-Palestinian protestors. I know their view but in one big way, they also owe their plight to failed and corrupt governing since 1948, 1967, 1973, and all the intifadas. Where was the Arab world in taking them in? Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt all turned them away. In most cases, governments wage war, not necessarily citizens, but the warriors are the Palestinians. They have supported all the incursions and have not ceased since the British occupied, then left and the Germans sided with the Grand Mufti in trying to eradicate Jews in what was Palestine. I'm not cruel. I feel for the losses on both sides but as the previous commenter said; where is the Arab world in helping to build homes instead of tunnels? The Palestinians never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Rabin had hoped for a two-state solution but it has been rejected for over 75 years. There was a UN Resolution in 1947 for an Arab state and Jewish state and they were attacked the day after they declared their independence. it's an old worn quote but "if the Arabs laid down their guns, there would be no more war, If the Israelis laid down their guns, there would be no more Israel. It's a horrible and desperate situation....love ya, Peter!
Morning Barry, I appreciate the discussion. Thank you. I agree with your historical points, however, why no mention of how horrible (to put it lightly) the Israeli right wing government has been to the Palestinians over the last 20 years. There are no angles on both sides. Why can't folks see that as well and not just continue with a one-sided point of view. There will never be any progress towards peace until each side can begin to understand the other's side. I coincidentally attended a bar mitzvah on October 7. I have not forgot the Rabbi's sermon, it resonated so loudly to me. He said, Don't hate the haters, hate the hate." Always love my sweet, dear friend.
3. Suggest that if they support Gaza and Palestine that they open their wallets to help feed and rebuild
4. Make a pilgrimage to rebuild.
5. If people in Gaza can build the tunnels, perhaps they can start a small industry of building pre-fabricated homes that are needed in Gaza, Ukraine, south/central America and even for migrants that have flooded parts of the USA. They can create jobs and businesses to build the pre-fab homes
Morning Barry, I consider myself a pro-Palestinian, pro-Israel, pro-Two State solution, anti Hamas, anti-right wing Israeli person. I find it so sad that when I discuss this "horrible-beyond-belief" situation very few ever see or think about the see the opposite side's position. Talk about being in a bubble. I get and respect how high an emotional issue this is for so many, but that is not an excuse to try and understand the other sides view. Regarding the college protest, I'm all for free speech and civil disobedience, but creating a threatening a hostile and dangerous environment only lessons your legitimacy and what valid points you could have. Tolerating this is very fucked up. All the college administrations continue to allow this to go on should lose their jobs. And the double standard that so obviously exists regarding how we treat Jews vs. other minority groups shouts anti-Semitism and needs to be recognized and addressed. Love ya Barry.... Thanks for Klugertown
Petey: i do not disagree with the rights of the pro-Palestinian protestors. I know their view but in one big way, they also owe their plight to failed and corrupt governing since 1948, 1967, 1973, and all the intifadas. Where was the Arab world in taking them in? Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt all turned them away. In most cases, governments wage war, not necessarily citizens, but the warriors are the Palestinians. They have supported all the incursions and have not ceased since the British occupied, then left and the Germans sided with the Grand Mufti in trying to eradicate Jews in what was Palestine. I'm not cruel. I feel for the losses on both sides but as the previous commenter said; where is the Arab world in helping to build homes instead of tunnels? The Palestinians never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Rabin had hoped for a two-state solution but it has been rejected for over 75 years. There was a UN Resolution in 1947 for an Arab state and Jewish state and they were attacked the day after they declared their independence. it's an old worn quote but "if the Arabs laid down their guns, there would be no more war, If the Israelis laid down their guns, there would be no more Israel. It's a horrible and desperate situation....love ya, Peter!
Morning Barry, I appreciate the discussion. Thank you. I agree with your historical points, however, why no mention of how horrible (to put it lightly) the Israeli right wing government has been to the Palestinians over the last 20 years. There are no angles on both sides. Why can't folks see that as well and not just continue with a one-sided point of view. There will never be any progress towards peace until each side can begin to understand the other's side. I coincidentally attended a bar mitzvah on October 7. I have not forgot the Rabbi's sermon, it resonated so loudly to me. He said, Don't hate the haters, hate the hate." Always love my sweet, dear friend.
1. check for student ID cards on school grounds
2. turn on the lawn sprinklers
3. Suggest that if they support Gaza and Palestine that they open their wallets to help feed and rebuild
4. Make a pilgrimage to rebuild.
5. If people in Gaza can build the tunnels, perhaps they can start a small industry of building pre-fabricated homes that are needed in Gaza, Ukraine, south/central America and even for migrants that have flooded parts of the USA. They can create jobs and businesses to build the pre-fab homes
brilliant!!Goldmintz for Columbia University President! (it would be a short commute).